The risk is a lower protection rate. IUDs are only about 70% effective I think, at least that's what I was told in Health class 3 years ago, they might have gotten better since then. There is definately a higher risk of vaginal and urinary tract infections though because it retains a lot of excess moisture ';down there';. Ask your doctor though for the best medical assistance. I reccomend using the Pill as well (I use Kariva, about $5, and I love it). It will regulate your period so you know to try and avoid sexual interaction during your most fertile times just to be on the safe side. You can also try using lubricants/condoms with Spermicide for the best protection. The only thing that is 100% effective is abstinance, but the closer you can get to 100%, the better.
Good for you for trying to be safe!! We need more careful people like you! :-)
PS: I checked the site that Tiffany (below me) posted just out of curiosity and it does say 99.9%. Just always check with your doctor first. Not all forms of birth control are right for everyone, so talk to him/her to choose the one (or combination) that is best for you.I'm trying to use the IUD as a birth control but is it safe what is the risk ?
I have a friend who got pregnant while she had an IUD in. The result of that pregnancy is now 33 years old and the mother of two.I'm trying to use the IUD as a birth control but is it safe what is the risk ?
IUD's are reasonably safe, but not particularly reliable.
i think that the dr will give you all the side effects when before he/she inserts it
I had the Mirena IUD put in place in Sept 2005. There was minimal pain (think period cramps) when it was put in, those lasted for maybe half a day or so. After that, I was feeling fine and have been ever since.
We use nothing but the IUD as birth control and so far, its worked for us. I am so glad I dont have to take a pill every day, get a shot or fumble for a condom when we are doing our thing.
Another great upside to it--NO period. My periods have totally disappeared because of the IUD. They will return once I have it removed.
There are risks to having it put in. It can end up in other parts of your body by going through the wall of the uterus, that is RARE but will need surgery to remove. Check out the Mirena website (already listed in an answer) and that will tell you all about it.
Here's the site:
http://www.mirena-us.com/index.html
I'm pretty sure this is the one you're talking about. I have the same one. They have a 99.9% effective rate, not 70%
No birth control to take every day or worry about forgetting
No fumbling with diaphragms, condoms or creams
No peeling patches
Only requires an office visit with your healthcare professional for placement or removal
Effective pregnancy prevention for up to five years
No routine to follow once the Mirena Intrauterine contraceptive (IUC) is accurately placed and the threads on the bottom of the Mirena have not changed in length
Additionally may provide menstruation benefits, such as 90% reduction in menstrual bleeding after one year (About 20% of users have no bleeding at all)
Lesser menstrual cramping in most users
Effective and reversible
99.9% effective pregnancy prevention
Mirena long term birth control works for up to five years (less, if you choose to have it removed)
Reversible with no loss of fertility*
Proven safety
Used successfully by millions of women, worldwide, for over fourteen years
FDA-Approved
9 out of 10 women who use Mirena would recommend it to their friends
Freedom of choice
Lets you decide when you want to try to become pregnant again
Unlike sterilization (tubal ligation or vasectomy), lets you keep your birth control options open (remember, 25% of women who have tubal ligation regret the decision later)
Easy for your healthcare professional to replace Mirena long term contraception at the end of five years; easy for your healthcare professional to remove early
chica_zarca, the reason I recomend it is because it has a lower risk of pregnancy than any other birth control. I've gotten pregnant on the patch as well as the nuva ring and condoms. I've been on the mirena for 14 months and *knock on wood* I'm not pregnant.
Friday, January 22, 2010
What are the risks if i take birth control pills for my irregular periods?
im 17 , a virgin and its been almost 4 months since my last period my gynecologist put me on birth control ( i start Sunday) abut i heard rumors about women being nauseous, light headed and even lactating! what are the chances that ill run into that? and btw my boobs are like really sore and my nipples, they been like like for a few weeks.What are the risks if i take birth control pills for my irregular periods?
There really isn't that many risks...if you get light headed or see spots, then give your doctor a call and ask about Depo birth control.
It's a shot every three months, and it'll help your periods.
If you have bad effects with regular BC Depo will work.
Good luck!What are the risks if i take birth control pills for my irregular periods?
Im 16, and birth control has been working great for me.
i don't see any side effects, and i ALWAYS know when i get my period.
the only thing is that your boobs will get bigger, and you MAY gain water weight, but that's normal, because birth control is supposed to make your body think you are pregnant.
the risks are the same with all women who take BC pills...it has nothing to do with virginity..BC pills are hormones and once you start taking them ,they do funny things...if they aren't right, have them changed. All BC pills are not right for all women...thats why there are so many.
It's best to ask your doctor. You can also research it on webmd.com
http://blogs.webmd.com/womens-health/200鈥?/a>black lipstick
There really isn't that many risks...if you get light headed or see spots, then give your doctor a call and ask about Depo birth control.
It's a shot every three months, and it'll help your periods.
If you have bad effects with regular BC Depo will work.
Good luck!What are the risks if i take birth control pills for my irregular periods?
Im 16, and birth control has been working great for me.
i don't see any side effects, and i ALWAYS know when i get my period.
the only thing is that your boobs will get bigger, and you MAY gain water weight, but that's normal, because birth control is supposed to make your body think you are pregnant.
the risks are the same with all women who take BC pills...it has nothing to do with virginity..BC pills are hormones and once you start taking them ,they do funny things...if they aren't right, have them changed. All BC pills are not right for all women...thats why there are so many.
It's best to ask your doctor. You can also research it on webmd.com
http://blogs.webmd.com/womens-health/200鈥?/a>
What are the risks of birth control and if i'm on the pill does my partner have to still use a condom?
Birth ControlWhat are the risks of birth control and if i'm on the pill does my partner have to still use a condom?
birth control pills are 99% effective at preventing pregnancy..BUT only if the are taking the way they are supposed to...everyday and at the same time of the day...if u cant do that then u better have him use a rubber...if u can then its not necessaryWhat are the risks of birth control and if i'm on the pill does my partner have to still use a condom?
Oral contraceptives, like any thing taken orally, has to pass through your liver. The amount of damage is minimal, but there is a toll taken. Depending on the pill that you are on, the amount of hormones released into your system can vary and effect you emotionally and physically. Also, the pill only protects against pregnancy, not sexually transmitted disease. If, for any reason, you feel that your partner is not being monogamous, use a condom.
If you don't trust your partner then yes wear a condom. But if your in a serious relationship and know that neither of you have anything then as long as you've been on the pill for 2 weeks then No he doesn't need to wear one.
you don't have to use a condom but to have more protection( even more safer) wear a condom. and for a little more protection and spermicide in the condom
there are many risks of the pill weight gain
blood pressure
heart after a period of time on it,
condon no . if he they only partner you have
birth control pills are 99% effective at preventing pregnancy..BUT only if the are taking the way they are supposed to...everyday and at the same time of the day...if u cant do that then u better have him use a rubber...if u can then its not necessaryWhat are the risks of birth control and if i'm on the pill does my partner have to still use a condom?
Oral contraceptives, like any thing taken orally, has to pass through your liver. The amount of damage is minimal, but there is a toll taken. Depending on the pill that you are on, the amount of hormones released into your system can vary and effect you emotionally and physically. Also, the pill only protects against pregnancy, not sexually transmitted disease. If, for any reason, you feel that your partner is not being monogamous, use a condom.
If you don't trust your partner then yes wear a condom. But if your in a serious relationship and know that neither of you have anything then as long as you've been on the pill for 2 weeks then No he doesn't need to wear one.
you don't have to use a condom but to have more protection( even more safer) wear a condom. and for a little more protection and spermicide in the condom
there are many risks of the pill weight gain
blood pressure
heart after a period of time on it,
condon no . if he they only partner you have
Can I sue the government: since they refuse to control the borders and put my life and my families at risk?
I think that would be a great idea. I also think you should go after the companies that hire illegals. The governement claims to punish them but it can't be too bad if they continue to do it. This is an incredible idea. There are no written laws that prevent you from sueing the government! I suppose you would have to pick a specific branch or office that you feel is the most responsible for letting the illegals in. Maybe the homeland security department. I live in Gerogia and I would love to sue one of the local police departments because several of the officers have said they often do not pull over illegal aliens because there is too much paperwork involved. You have inspired me!I think we should all get involved. We should boycott products from companies that are known to hire illegals then band together for a huge class action law suit against the companies and the government for allowing it to continue!Can I sue the government: since they refuse to control the borders and put my life and my families at risk?
Most important thing no one has said on here, the MAJORITY aren't immigrants, 87% are Communist Mexican nationals.
The goal is to drive Americans out and form their own nation, by any means, be it murder, rape, child molestation, they don't care as long as Americans are pushed out.
Can I sue the government: since they refuse to control the borders and put my life and my families at risk?
You are pretty dumb.....First of all they arent refusing to control the borders....secondly if you think the illegals are more endangering than others you are so wrong. ';Natives'; need to stop blaming ';illegals'; for all their problems....someone shoudl sue you for suggesting that all illegals are dangerous.....People sit here and suggest that the only illegals come up form mexico.....what about canadians, russians, germans, chinese?
What has your local representative had to say about this? Your vote is much more powerful.
Why don't you just sue the American Dream so that it will go bankrupt and no one will want it anymore?
How do illegal immigrants put you at risk?
You know I understand that there are a lot of illegal immigrants that do cause trouble for the US, but there are also a lot of Americans that do the same and take advantage of the fact that they are Americans.
Just remember that there are a lot of immigrants that have done some good. My father was an illegal immigrant and he is in jail because he helped kill someone, but I, his daughter has done good. I have my degree, working on another, served in the military and am a good person in my community. So, although my father was not the model citizen and was an illegal something did come out of it, me.
So don't go and stereotype all illegals, because some of them are out there doing good. Just a thought take it as you may because at the end we all have our own opinions. If you are still reading this, Thanks.
You can't sue for possible harm. You have to demonstrate actual harm. How have you suffered from immigration?
Too bad that it has come to action like this, even if it does not work,,the public is getting tired and fed up, and I just hope they can keep it all together, or there could be some illegal alien hunting about to start, not that I am condoning this, but something is going to give and I can only blame the gov't........for their looking the other way,,,,,,,,
If you can prove that you have suffered harm, try it. By the way, British Gas is not the ';government'; it's a company.
Not the whole government. You know who the decider is.
';Soverign Immunity'; means that the government can only be sued if it allows itself to be sued. Not likely. By the way, I live so close to the border that I can see it and I assure you, the border is under control. I don't understand why the media is creating the impression that its not under control. Come look for yourself, it is as orderly as you could ever hope.
wouldn't hold breath on that one ..no win situation ..save your money ..but you never know maybe highflyer out there just awaiting ....good luck
we wish we could sometimes
Not really seeing as it's govt propaganda which made you post this question in the first place.
If only....... but I know where you're coming from!!!
You could definitely try; there are no ';set rules'; about lawsuits. However, it might be difficult to find an attorney that would be willing to represent you in this matter.
The first line of your posting interests me.You probably wont want to be bothered with my issue but just in case. I am English %26amp; the British Gas are holding onto quite a bit of money of mine, making delays %26amp; informing me it is in the post to arrive on certain dates. Finally with concocting figures they are now declaring they owe me nothing. I have paperwork clearly showing they do. I am told they are so big %26amp; powerful.They are the government, unconcerned %26amp; unembarrassed if I take it to expose on Watchdog tv program.Any suggestions how I can get my money?
Illegals - work
Americans - welfare
probably, it must be a violation of your human rights.
only if it affects you on a one to one basis, if everyone else is included in the deficiency then the answer is NO you cant.
why is one life placed higher than everyone elses?
No, sue the businesses that lobby to keep border control light so that they can get cheap labor from illegal Mexican workers.
yeah good luck with that one. i suspect that proving direct danger as a reult of the government action will dbe difficult. as you would have to disprove the whole free will of the individual thing, and that would disprove the entire nature of crime.
so i suspect that wouldnt go through
but i like the idea
Thank you Bob,
I live on the Border and I don't believe any of these imbeciles who are replying in total ignorance understand our plight.
Mexican Drug Gangs control the Border armed with AK-47s.
They have brought the construction of the Border Fence to a halt. The Border Patrol doesn't even go out there anymore. They sit ten miles back and pick off vehicles on the main roads.
The last time the Minute Men were here they spotted over a hundred illegals in the first 30 minutes. They find dead bodies on the grounds of the US Army Intelligence School.
Dead bodies are found in clusters of six or eight.
Posse Commitatus is just an excuse for doing nothing and it didn't stop us from using the Army to go after Pancho Villa.
The US Government and the US Military are failing to protect our borders from Armed Incursions.
government can not be sued in her own courts.
I only wish we all could
It does appear that you have a sound civil case for negligence, and someone who experiences actual harm has an even stronger case.
Most important thing no one has said on here, the MAJORITY aren't immigrants, 87% are Communist Mexican nationals.
The goal is to drive Americans out and form their own nation, by any means, be it murder, rape, child molestation, they don't care as long as Americans are pushed out.
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Can I sue the government: since they refuse to control the borders and put my life and my families at risk?
You are pretty dumb.....First of all they arent refusing to control the borders....secondly if you think the illegals are more endangering than others you are so wrong. ';Natives'; need to stop blaming ';illegals'; for all their problems....someone shoudl sue you for suggesting that all illegals are dangerous.....People sit here and suggest that the only illegals come up form mexico.....what about canadians, russians, germans, chinese?
What has your local representative had to say about this? Your vote is much more powerful.
Why don't you just sue the American Dream so that it will go bankrupt and no one will want it anymore?
How do illegal immigrants put you at risk?
You know I understand that there are a lot of illegal immigrants that do cause trouble for the US, but there are also a lot of Americans that do the same and take advantage of the fact that they are Americans.
Just remember that there are a lot of immigrants that have done some good. My father was an illegal immigrant and he is in jail because he helped kill someone, but I, his daughter has done good. I have my degree, working on another, served in the military and am a good person in my community. So, although my father was not the model citizen and was an illegal something did come out of it, me.
So don't go and stereotype all illegals, because some of them are out there doing good. Just a thought take it as you may because at the end we all have our own opinions. If you are still reading this, Thanks.
You can't sue for possible harm. You have to demonstrate actual harm. How have you suffered from immigration?
Too bad that it has come to action like this, even if it does not work,,the public is getting tired and fed up, and I just hope they can keep it all together, or there could be some illegal alien hunting about to start, not that I am condoning this, but something is going to give and I can only blame the gov't........for their looking the other way,,,,,,,,
If you can prove that you have suffered harm, try it. By the way, British Gas is not the ';government'; it's a company.
Not the whole government. You know who the decider is.
';Soverign Immunity'; means that the government can only be sued if it allows itself to be sued. Not likely. By the way, I live so close to the border that I can see it and I assure you, the border is under control. I don't understand why the media is creating the impression that its not under control. Come look for yourself, it is as orderly as you could ever hope.
wouldn't hold breath on that one ..no win situation ..save your money ..but you never know maybe highflyer out there just awaiting ....good luck
we wish we could sometimes
Not really seeing as it's govt propaganda which made you post this question in the first place.
If only....... but I know where you're coming from!!!
You could definitely try; there are no ';set rules'; about lawsuits. However, it might be difficult to find an attorney that would be willing to represent you in this matter.
The first line of your posting interests me.You probably wont want to be bothered with my issue but just in case. I am English %26amp; the British Gas are holding onto quite a bit of money of mine, making delays %26amp; informing me it is in the post to arrive on certain dates. Finally with concocting figures they are now declaring they owe me nothing. I have paperwork clearly showing they do. I am told they are so big %26amp; powerful.They are the government, unconcerned %26amp; unembarrassed if I take it to expose on Watchdog tv program.Any suggestions how I can get my money?
Illegals - work
Americans - welfare
probably, it must be a violation of your human rights.
only if it affects you on a one to one basis, if everyone else is included in the deficiency then the answer is NO you cant.
why is one life placed higher than everyone elses?
No, sue the businesses that lobby to keep border control light so that they can get cheap labor from illegal Mexican workers.
yeah good luck with that one. i suspect that proving direct danger as a reult of the government action will dbe difficult. as you would have to disprove the whole free will of the individual thing, and that would disprove the entire nature of crime.
so i suspect that wouldnt go through
but i like the idea
Thank you Bob,
I live on the Border and I don't believe any of these imbeciles who are replying in total ignorance understand our plight.
Mexican Drug Gangs control the Border armed with AK-47s.
They have brought the construction of the Border Fence to a halt. The Border Patrol doesn't even go out there anymore. They sit ten miles back and pick off vehicles on the main roads.
The last time the Minute Men were here they spotted over a hundred illegals in the first 30 minutes. They find dead bodies on the grounds of the US Army Intelligence School.
Dead bodies are found in clusters of six or eight.
Posse Commitatus is just an excuse for doing nothing and it didn't stop us from using the Army to go after Pancho Villa.
The US Government and the US Military are failing to protect our borders from Armed Incursions.
government can not be sued in her own courts.
I only wish we all could
It does appear that you have a sound civil case for negligence, and someone who experiences actual harm has an even stronger case.
Jehovah's Witnesses are not allowed to smoke & risk explosion .Mind control or caring about it members?
Why don't most other religions make this stand ?Jehovah's Witnesses are not allowed to smoke %26amp; risk explosion .Mind control or caring about it members?
Yes, expelling people for smoking is something few organizations have the guts to do.
When the JW's made the decision to disfellowship those that smoke, the majority of JW smokers quit. Some didn't and left . . .
Yet, I have to admit that it is nice not to be around smokers. The world would be a better place if no one smoked.Jehovah's Witnesses are not allowed to smoke %26amp; risk explosion .Mind control or caring about it members?
There are many religions that state that smoking is bad for a person and that their members should not smoke. Surely you must agree with this concept. It has been scientifically proven that smoking does damage to the body and the mind, including lung cancer.
When a particular religion puts a ruling into their belief system, that does not mean that all the members take notice of it. The same applies to laws in certain Church's that ban alcohol.
Many people ignore the ruling and do it secretly, so as not to let other members know what they are doing. I have experienced this with my ex husband. Even I did not know that he was a drinker until it was too late. No matter what religion one belongs to,. if you are a member then surely you should abide by the rules, if you do not wish to, then leave that congregation.
As for the word ';Expelled';. The JW Church, sadly, cuts the person right out of the lives of their family and friends, by shunning.
But here again, if a JW did not want to abide by their rules, why belong to that particular Church in the first place.
This is where the word hypocrisy comes in. Pretending to be one thing whilst actually doing the opposite.
to JONES DEL - Mormons do have that ruling, but they do not expel their members if they do smoke. It is definitely looked down on, and many Mormons drink and smoke - under the table, shall we say. There is excommuniation for certain laws being broken, but not the smoking and drinking rule. Many Mormon members drink coffee for instance, but they are not ';banned'; because of it. Once again though, hypocrisy comes into play, because why belong to anything if you do not go along with their teachings.
I'm at a loss about the explosion part. but the reason most other religions don't make a stand for not smoking is because many people in the churches might be smokers and they don't want to loose the numbers so they make it acceptable so people are comfortable.
God's stand is: ';You must love your neighbor as yourself.'; (Matthew 22:39) Love for your neighbors—and your family members are your closest neighbors.
so how does 2nd hand smoke show love?
also
The Bible says that we should love God with our whole mind, heart, soul, and strength. That is something we cannot do if we are addicted to tobacco.—Mark 12:30.
it also says
“You created all things, and because of your will they existed and were created.” (Revelation 4:11)
also
';For by him we have life and move and exist'; (Acts 17:28)
so does this show respect for God's gift of life?
';many use tobacco, chew betel nut, or take drugs for recreational purposes. Such substances harm the body and often kill the users. A person who makes it a practice to use these substances does not view life as sacred.'; These practices are unclean in God’s eyes. (Romans 6:19; 12:1; 2 Corinthians 7:1)
Well, if JWs are so volatile (I had no idea!) that they explode around cigars and cigarettes, then forbidding them to smoke shows that the religion cares about its members. Seems like they would only need to be told about it once, though, and the taboo would be self-enforcing thereafter.
All traditional western religions control the minds of their members by instilling fear of the consequences if they don't agree with the basic tenets of their religion. Jehovah's witnesses are no different.
The reasons most of the people who practice a western religion deny the existence of mind control within their own faith are multiple. They might have a financial or egoistic stake in their own belief, or perhaps the impact of their own faith's mind manipulation hasn't set in yet and they are still giddy from the rush of their conversion, or maybe they don't have the intellectual capacity to understand the definition of mind control (the mathematical average IQ of an American is less than 100 and god knows what it is for the rest of the world), or they could be true believers and either perfectly content with their beliefs, as well as perfectly sane, or in need of serious psychiatric counseling.
Having been raised in the fundamental Christian beliefs, I understand the allure that it has for many, because I too have felt its emotional and intellectual impact.
I think that for this reason, I also understand the mindsets of most Catholics, Orthodox Jews and Muslims, and I believe that until an adherent of one these faiths comes to an understanding of their particular religion's effective strategies to bring them into line, he does not understand her faith.
Contrary to what a typical user of this website may think, I neither agree with or disagree with the religions or their reasons for practicing mind control, I merely treat them and their tactics as facts and part of their reality. But I cannot condemn one faith for using the same tactics that the others consider fair to do if and when it benefits them to do so.
I will, however, lay down this warning. Until the majority of religionists, and I include the atheists in this group, since it was contrived in the West, shares this view the world and its flaws, I believe that world will never see peace and true progress.
For those of you who disagree with this philospy, which is not mine alone, I say good luck, because you'll need it every time you step on a plane or use an elevator to ascend a skyscraper, or perhaps, every time you visit your favorite mall. Only through tolerance of another person's beliefs will you ever feel safe.
' Think not that Allah Doth not heed the deeds of those who do wrong. He but giveth respite against a Day when the eyes will fixedly stare in horror-
they running forward necks outstretched, their heads uplifted, their gaze returning not towards them and their hearts a gaping void.
So warn mankind of the Day when the Wrath will reach them' (Quran)
Commentary- The evil ones when they realise the situation will be dazed, their eyes will stare without expression and never move back, their necks will be outstretched, their heads uplifted in terror of the Judgment from on High and their hearts become empty of all hope or intelligence as the physical heart might become empty of blood when the circulation stops.
In this state they will press forward to Judgment.
When the time for Judgment comes there are two kinds of disillusionment waiting for the ungodly-
1) those who were misled and failed to see that each soul bears its own personal responsibility and cannot shift it on to others will turn to those who misled them in hope that they might intercede for them or do something to help them
They receive a plain answer ' if we had received the guidance of Allah we should have given it to you; to us it makes no difference whether we rage or bear (these torments) with patience for ourselves there is no escape (Quran).
2) Those who relied on Satan temptations to be misled by worldly desires. Satan will them say 'i deceived you. i had no power to force you; i had but to call and you came running. The promise of Allah ( and the final Day) was true.
I AM a Jehovah's Witness and we don't do that because it is unclean in God's eyes and God made our wonderful bodies so we should respect that. This is not mind control. Other religions do not do this because the do not know the truth. The religious leaders are hypocritical and why would they tell their congregation not to smoke if they are smoking themselves? I admit I have no idea what you mean about the explosion thing, though. I hope I helped you.
Just when I thought my day couldn't get better, that's thanks to you. I read this and laughed so hard my dogs came to see what was up.
I know what you meant, expulsion or expelled. Mind control? We can walk away any time we want to if we decided it's not what we want. But almost 100% of JWs do want it, it being everlasting life, and are willing to follow Bible guidelines. So what's wrong with caring about the congregation?
Keep them coming, Lone. And we'll all fight for you as the sanest, smartest 80 year old grouch in the world. Let your family know that.
Mormons do NOT EXPEL you for smoking. My mother is mormon and she smokes and does not even attend her church but they bring her food and drop by and are willing to do household chores for free, I am jw and we are not supposed to smoke for it would involve disfellowshipment on the grounds that it is not loving to your neighbors but i gotta say if she can smoke three packs a day she could afford her own food if she didn't couldn't she?
(You seriously need some english grammar lessons...)
It's not JUST JW....it is every one that understands that your body is the Temple where the Spirit of God resides, and you don't wantto put ';grafitty'; inside its walls.
Having said that, and since you are accountable to Him alone, why does the rest of the bunch object you having a cigarrette with your coffee at the end of your meal at night, if it does NOT constitute addiction, but mearly a pleasurable thing?
Is this ';peer presure'; ? I would think so...
Actually there are other groups/faiths, that take said stand on this and other issues that Witnesses take issue with. However, sadly, some seem to think this is some Scheme created by Witnesses in our bid to take over the world *hears Pinky and Brain music*.....
Most religions teach that your body is a temple and therefore you have to treat it well. Smoking is obviously a detriment to healthy living.
Never heard of explosions??? Mind control?? I thought you had free will to choose what you want to worship.
You mean expulsion lol
*gets wild mental image of elder exploding off the platform at the Kingdom Hall from the cigar he smoked before the meetings*
:-D
All Bible laws are there for our benefit- every single command of God is there to help us.
';This is what Jehovah has said, your Repurchaser, the Holy One of Israel: “I, Jehovah, am your God, the One teaching you to benefit [yourself], the One causing you to tread in the way in which you should walk.'; (Isaiah 48:17)
I don't know about the 'risk explosion' part... but the JW's... like the Seventh Day Adventists, the Mormons, and many other conservative christian groups... see cigarette smoking as a sin because 'your body is the Temple of God'.
He doesn't mean explosion. He means expelled. Jehovah members who smoke can be shunned and kicked out of the Jehovah members community. Mormons also make this stand.
Thank you LD for that typO!!!
I don't want to KABOOM!
1) Caring = following God's Law.
2) They don't follow God's Law.
Wasn't that easier then going KABOOM!!! ?
I'm not really sure what the explosion thing refers too, but I don't understand how anyone can claim to live their life by the Bible and smoke.
Y'know, not smoking to avoid cancer is a sensible health reason... but to avoid it due to risk of explosion? Huh?
many people
I see is atheist
they are proud of who they are
other is other chrisitan
they are happy too
why they change their way if they are happy?
what's smoke and risk explosion. they are not allowed caring about other members? why would they want to make that stand? I like caring for others.
You are crazy *lights up cigarette*
KABOOM!!!
*__*
I haven't laughed this good in awhile. LD that was funny. See what you did to Tears of Oberon? Poor guy.
You means expulsion. The expulsion part is a bit harsh, but smoking is dangerous
Risk explosion? What does that mean?
i dont understand your question
LOL What?!
Jehova's Witnesses are just door-to-door soul merchants, bro!
Read ';The Watchtower'; by Steven King, LOL!
Yes, expelling people for smoking is something few organizations have the guts to do.
When the JW's made the decision to disfellowship those that smoke, the majority of JW smokers quit. Some didn't and left . . .
Yet, I have to admit that it is nice not to be around smokers. The world would be a better place if no one smoked.Jehovah's Witnesses are not allowed to smoke %26amp; risk explosion .Mind control or caring about it members?
There are many religions that state that smoking is bad for a person and that their members should not smoke. Surely you must agree with this concept. It has been scientifically proven that smoking does damage to the body and the mind, including lung cancer.
When a particular religion puts a ruling into their belief system, that does not mean that all the members take notice of it. The same applies to laws in certain Church's that ban alcohol.
Many people ignore the ruling and do it secretly, so as not to let other members know what they are doing. I have experienced this with my ex husband. Even I did not know that he was a drinker until it was too late. No matter what religion one belongs to,. if you are a member then surely you should abide by the rules, if you do not wish to, then leave that congregation.
As for the word ';Expelled';. The JW Church, sadly, cuts the person right out of the lives of their family and friends, by shunning.
But here again, if a JW did not want to abide by their rules, why belong to that particular Church in the first place.
This is where the word hypocrisy comes in. Pretending to be one thing whilst actually doing the opposite.
to JONES DEL - Mormons do have that ruling, but they do not expel their members if they do smoke. It is definitely looked down on, and many Mormons drink and smoke - under the table, shall we say. There is excommuniation for certain laws being broken, but not the smoking and drinking rule. Many Mormon members drink coffee for instance, but they are not ';banned'; because of it. Once again though, hypocrisy comes into play, because why belong to anything if you do not go along with their teachings.
I'm at a loss about the explosion part. but the reason most other religions don't make a stand for not smoking is because many people in the churches might be smokers and they don't want to loose the numbers so they make it acceptable so people are comfortable.
God's stand is: ';You must love your neighbor as yourself.'; (Matthew 22:39) Love for your neighbors—and your family members are your closest neighbors.
so how does 2nd hand smoke show love?
also
The Bible says that we should love God with our whole mind, heart, soul, and strength. That is something we cannot do if we are addicted to tobacco.—Mark 12:30.
it also says
“You created all things, and because of your will they existed and were created.” (Revelation 4:11)
also
';For by him we have life and move and exist'; (Acts 17:28)
so does this show respect for God's gift of life?
';many use tobacco, chew betel nut, or take drugs for recreational purposes. Such substances harm the body and often kill the users. A person who makes it a practice to use these substances does not view life as sacred.'; These practices are unclean in God’s eyes. (Romans 6:19; 12:1; 2 Corinthians 7:1)
Well, if JWs are so volatile (I had no idea!) that they explode around cigars and cigarettes, then forbidding them to smoke shows that the religion cares about its members. Seems like they would only need to be told about it once, though, and the taboo would be self-enforcing thereafter.
All traditional western religions control the minds of their members by instilling fear of the consequences if they don't agree with the basic tenets of their religion. Jehovah's witnesses are no different.
The reasons most of the people who practice a western religion deny the existence of mind control within their own faith are multiple. They might have a financial or egoistic stake in their own belief, or perhaps the impact of their own faith's mind manipulation hasn't set in yet and they are still giddy from the rush of their conversion, or maybe they don't have the intellectual capacity to understand the definition of mind control (the mathematical average IQ of an American is less than 100 and god knows what it is for the rest of the world), or they could be true believers and either perfectly content with their beliefs, as well as perfectly sane, or in need of serious psychiatric counseling.
Having been raised in the fundamental Christian beliefs, I understand the allure that it has for many, because I too have felt its emotional and intellectual impact.
I think that for this reason, I also understand the mindsets of most Catholics, Orthodox Jews and Muslims, and I believe that until an adherent of one these faiths comes to an understanding of their particular religion's effective strategies to bring them into line, he does not understand her faith.
Contrary to what a typical user of this website may think, I neither agree with or disagree with the religions or their reasons for practicing mind control, I merely treat them and their tactics as facts and part of their reality. But I cannot condemn one faith for using the same tactics that the others consider fair to do if and when it benefits them to do so.
I will, however, lay down this warning. Until the majority of religionists, and I include the atheists in this group, since it was contrived in the West, shares this view the world and its flaws, I believe that world will never see peace and true progress.
For those of you who disagree with this philospy, which is not mine alone, I say good luck, because you'll need it every time you step on a plane or use an elevator to ascend a skyscraper, or perhaps, every time you visit your favorite mall. Only through tolerance of another person's beliefs will you ever feel safe.
' Think not that Allah Doth not heed the deeds of those who do wrong. He but giveth respite against a Day when the eyes will fixedly stare in horror-
they running forward necks outstretched, their heads uplifted, their gaze returning not towards them and their hearts a gaping void.
So warn mankind of the Day when the Wrath will reach them' (Quran)
Commentary- The evil ones when they realise the situation will be dazed, their eyes will stare without expression and never move back, their necks will be outstretched, their heads uplifted in terror of the Judgment from on High and their hearts become empty of all hope or intelligence as the physical heart might become empty of blood when the circulation stops.
In this state they will press forward to Judgment.
When the time for Judgment comes there are two kinds of disillusionment waiting for the ungodly-
1) those who were misled and failed to see that each soul bears its own personal responsibility and cannot shift it on to others will turn to those who misled them in hope that they might intercede for them or do something to help them
They receive a plain answer ' if we had received the guidance of Allah we should have given it to you; to us it makes no difference whether we rage or bear (these torments) with patience for ourselves there is no escape (Quran).
2) Those who relied on Satan temptations to be misled by worldly desires. Satan will them say 'i deceived you. i had no power to force you; i had but to call and you came running. The promise of Allah ( and the final Day) was true.
I AM a Jehovah's Witness and we don't do that because it is unclean in God's eyes and God made our wonderful bodies so we should respect that. This is not mind control. Other religions do not do this because the do not know the truth. The religious leaders are hypocritical and why would they tell their congregation not to smoke if they are smoking themselves? I admit I have no idea what you mean about the explosion thing, though. I hope I helped you.
Just when I thought my day couldn't get better, that's thanks to you. I read this and laughed so hard my dogs came to see what was up.
I know what you meant, expulsion or expelled. Mind control? We can walk away any time we want to if we decided it's not what we want. But almost 100% of JWs do want it, it being everlasting life, and are willing to follow Bible guidelines. So what's wrong with caring about the congregation?
Keep them coming, Lone. And we'll all fight for you as the sanest, smartest 80 year old grouch in the world. Let your family know that.
Mormons do NOT EXPEL you for smoking. My mother is mormon and she smokes and does not even attend her church but they bring her food and drop by and are willing to do household chores for free, I am jw and we are not supposed to smoke for it would involve disfellowshipment on the grounds that it is not loving to your neighbors but i gotta say if she can smoke three packs a day she could afford her own food if she didn't couldn't she?
(You seriously need some english grammar lessons...)
It's not JUST JW....it is every one that understands that your body is the Temple where the Spirit of God resides, and you don't wantto put ';grafitty'; inside its walls.
Having said that, and since you are accountable to Him alone, why does the rest of the bunch object you having a cigarrette with your coffee at the end of your meal at night, if it does NOT constitute addiction, but mearly a pleasurable thing?
Is this ';peer presure'; ? I would think so...
Actually there are other groups/faiths, that take said stand on this and other issues that Witnesses take issue with. However, sadly, some seem to think this is some Scheme created by Witnesses in our bid to take over the world *hears Pinky and Brain music*.....
Most religions teach that your body is a temple and therefore you have to treat it well. Smoking is obviously a detriment to healthy living.
Never heard of explosions??? Mind control?? I thought you had free will to choose what you want to worship.
You mean expulsion lol
*gets wild mental image of elder exploding off the platform at the Kingdom Hall from the cigar he smoked before the meetings*
:-D
All Bible laws are there for our benefit- every single command of God is there to help us.
';This is what Jehovah has said, your Repurchaser, the Holy One of Israel: “I, Jehovah, am your God, the One teaching you to benefit [yourself], the One causing you to tread in the way in which you should walk.'; (Isaiah 48:17)
I don't know about the 'risk explosion' part... but the JW's... like the Seventh Day Adventists, the Mormons, and many other conservative christian groups... see cigarette smoking as a sin because 'your body is the Temple of God'.
He doesn't mean explosion. He means expelled. Jehovah members who smoke can be shunned and kicked out of the Jehovah members community. Mormons also make this stand.
Thank you LD for that typO!!!
I don't want to KABOOM!
1) Caring = following God's Law.
2) They don't follow God's Law.
Wasn't that easier then going KABOOM!!! ?
I'm not really sure what the explosion thing refers too, but I don't understand how anyone can claim to live their life by the Bible and smoke.
Y'know, not smoking to avoid cancer is a sensible health reason... but to avoid it due to risk of explosion? Huh?
many people
I see is atheist
they are proud of who they are
other is other chrisitan
they are happy too
why they change their way if they are happy?
what's smoke and risk explosion. they are not allowed caring about other members? why would they want to make that stand? I like caring for others.
You are crazy *lights up cigarette*
KABOOM!!!
*__*
I haven't laughed this good in awhile. LD that was funny. See what you did to Tears of Oberon? Poor guy.
You means expulsion. The expulsion part is a bit harsh, but smoking is dangerous
Risk explosion? What does that mean?
i dont understand your question
LOL What?!
Jehova's Witnesses are just door-to-door soul merchants, bro!
Read ';The Watchtower'; by Steven King, LOL!
Risk of pregnancy after taking first pack of birth control pills?
i used to be on seasonale for three years then i felt like it was messing with my system too much so i started Aviane the generic kind of alessa i think but anyways i just finished me period for the fiirst pack and i was wondering if im pretty much covered by now since its new birth control and all because its my boyfriends birthday next week and i was gonna give him a surprise :) lol p.s. we've both been tested and were okayRisk of pregnancy after taking first pack of birth control pills?
Well no birth control is 100% but it is considered to be okay after 1 cycle of birth control to go without a condum....Good Luck!Risk of pregnancy after taking first pack of birth control pills?
I gave my ex that kind of surprise over 6 years ago while taking ortho tri cyclen... I gave him an even bigger surprise about 9 months later, when our daughter was born =)
Well no birth control is 100% but it is considered to be okay after 1 cycle of birth control to go without a condum....Good Luck!Risk of pregnancy after taking first pack of birth control pills?
I gave my ex that kind of surprise over 6 years ago while taking ortho tri cyclen... I gave him an even bigger surprise about 9 months later, when our daughter was born =)
If u never get pregenant and never been on birth control, r u less risk for having breast cancer?
Actually, women that have never given birth are at a higher risk for breast cancer. Breast size does not matter. Just make sure you do self exams, get checked by your doctor once a year and have regular mammograms if you are over 40 or have a family history of breast cancer.
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